can be used. >> dr. friedberg. >> i believe this problem basked in intellectual property is not a new one. we felt that before with other developing countries. china is a quarter of different magnitude than any we've faced in the past. the size and scale of china's efforts to extract technology, to steal technology to put it bluntly, the opportunities they have to do in part because of the desire of advanced industrial countries, firms wishing to invest in china and have msn mentioned earlier, sometimes hand over intellectual property and have the right to do that.